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Bill Gates: Here’s the No. 1 thing that keeps me up at night

Billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates has spent the past couple decades warning the general public about ominous issues, from upcoming “climate disasters” to devastating cyberattacks.

Two potential catastrophes evoke the most concern from Gates. “A lot of unrest” in today’s world could spark “a major war,” he tells CNBC Make It. And even “if we avoid a big war … then, yes, there will be another pandemic, most likely in the next 25 years.”

Scientists typically view pandemics as likely, even inevitable, occurrences over time. They are indeed becoming more common, due to factors like climate change and population growth, research shows.

For Gates and other global health advocates, the question isn’t whether another pandemic will occur soon — it’s whether nations will be more prepared than they were for the outbreak of Covid-19. “The country that the world expected to lead and be the model fell short of those expectations,” Gates says, referring to the United States.

Gates wrote a book called “How to Prevent the Next Pandemic” in 2022, in which he called out various governments, including the U.S., for not being adequately prepared in 2020. In the book, he laid out several recommendations for countries worldwide, including stronger quarantining policies, investing in disease monitoring and boosting vaccine research and development.

While some progress has been made, with increased spending on pandemic preparedness in the U.S. and elsewhere, Gates says the global response hasn’t yet been enough. “Although some of the lessons from [the coronavirus] pandemic have been learned, [it’s been] way less than I would expect, sadly,” he says.

The political divisions many believe hampered the world’s response to Covid-19 are still standing in the way of preparing appropriately for the next outbreak, Gates adds: “Getting our thoughts together about what [we did] well, what we didn’t do well, is still not happening …. Perhaps, in the next five years, that’ll get better. But, so far, it’s quite surprising.”

Preventing widespread disease is the focus of an episode in the upcoming Netflix docuseries “What’s Next? The Future with Bill Gates,” set to premiere September 18.

In an advance screening of the Netflix series provided to Make It, Gates sits down with Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. In that conversation, Fauci is adamant that the wealthiest nations, like the U.S., have a “moral responsibility” to share their abundant resources to lead the way on preventing the spread of disease around the world.

Fauci published a memoir this summer called “On Call,” in which he expressed his concerns over how the world is facing a “crisis of truth” over rampant misinformation, such as the kind that shook the public’s faith in public health initiatives.

The scientist struck a more optimistic tone in a July interview with People, in which he said he believes that public trust of scientific facts will eventually be restored.

“I still feel as somewhat of a cautious optimist that there are the better angels in everybody that will come out,” Fauci said.

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A ‘lose-lose situation’: Tim Walz took a $135,000 early withdrawal from a retirement account

If you’re considering a political candidate, it makes sense to examine their record on fiscal issues and how their policies have affected their constituents’ finances. But what about the candidate’s personal finances?

Such are the conversations surrounding Minnesota governor and vice-presidential candidate Tim Walz. Walz and his wife Gwen earned about $300,000 in 2023, according to documents shared with the Wall Street Journal. His Republican rival, Senator J.D. Vance, disclosed 2022 income between $1.2 and $1.3 million.

Even more interestingly, Walz told the Journal that he made a roughly $135,000 early withdrawal from a workplace retirement account last year to fund his daughter’s college education. It’s a move that financial advisors would tend to steer most clients away from.

“Most of the time, it’s not advisable,” says Gerika Espinosa, a certified financial planner with DMBA in Salt Lake City, Utah. “Because people are doing it at the expense of their own retirement and then their retirement suffers. And then it’s kind of a lose-lose situation.”

Walz is in an unusual situation

For Walz, $135,000 represents a relatively small chunk of what he can expect to earn in retirement. The Wall Street Journal estimates the Walzes’ retirement savings at more than $1 million, meaning that the early withdrawal likely represented somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% of the retirement fund.

What’s more, Walz’s situation is a little different than most Americans’. He can expect ample pension income in retirement thanks to his years working as a teacher, national guardsman and politician — some of which he’s already collecting. Of Walz and his wife’s roughly $300,000 in 2023 income, about $135,000 came from pensions or annuities.

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Walz’s work history means that his retirement picture looks like a bit of a throwback, says Jamie Bosse, a certified financial planner and senior advisor at CGN Advisors in Manhattan Kansas.

“When I first got into financial planning, they taught us that retirement spending was a three-legged stool. You could rely on pensions, Social Security and your personal savings,” she says.

Nowadays, with many pension plans frozen or eliminated and worries mounting about the future stability of Social Security, “that stool is really like a pogo stick,” says Bosse. “Now more than ever, your future financial independence is directly related to your ability to save a portion of your income for retirement.”

In other words, Walz’s move isn’t ideal for anybody. But it’s especially dangerous for the majority of Americans who will have to rely heavily on their investments to fund their retirement.

Why it’s best to avoid early withdrawals

For most people, an early withdrawal from a retirement plan is a risky move. For one, anything that you withdraw from a retirement account is money that doesn’t get a chance to grow at a compounding rate. Whether it represented a big portion of the Walzes’ income or not, that $135,000 is money that isn’t working for their retirement.

“Taking money out of your retirement accounts to use for something else means, by definition, that money won’t be available for retirement,” says Yusuf Abugideiri, a CFP and chief investment officer at Yeske Buie in Vienna, Virginia. “You’re putting yourself in a really challenging position in most cases”

What’s more, taking money from a retirement account is expensive. Money you withdraw from a 401(k)-type account is taxed as regular income. Plus, take the money out before age 59½, and you’ll generally incur a tax penalty on whatever you withdraw.

A withdrawal may seem worth it to fund something like a child’s education — which can seem like a much more pressing need than retirement, says Bosse. But it’s a move that severely limits your financial flexibility, she says.

“The reality is, there are options for paying for college. The student can work. There’s a lot of colleges that offer tuition aid if you work for the college. There are work study programs. There are loans,” she says. “There’s not as many options when you’re retired and you run out of money. You can’t get a loan for retirement.”

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Bill Gates shares the mindset he used to grow Microsoft: I focused my life ‘just on the one job’

When Bill Gates dropped out of college to co-found Microsoft, he wasn’t thinking about becoming a billionaire or running a company that’s now valued at more than $3 trillion.

Gates, then 20 years old, had a much more “boring” definition of success, he tells CNBC Make It: “Back then, it was just: Is my code really good? Does it work? And can this company show the world that these microcomputers are big?”

At the time, in 1976, computer obsessives like Gates and co-founder Paul Allen were considered “hobbyists” — yet they fervently believed that a technological revolution was imminent. “It was the magic of software. And I was willing to focus my life, in my 20s, just on software, just on the one job,” says Gates.

Specifically, that job was creating high-quality software that could make the general public actually embrace the personal computer. “Our phrase was ‘a personal computer on every desk and in every home,’ which sounds boring today, but back then [it] was completely crazy,” says Gates, referencing the mission statement he and Allen often repeated to Microsoft’s early employees.

That intense focus on creating the best product possible didn’t mean Gates wasn’t aware that there was also money to be made — in fact, he insisted upon it from the beginning. In his famous “Open Letter to Hobbyists” in 1976, Gates wrote that users needed to pay fair prices to use software so that developers, like himself, were compensated well enough to ensure they could work on creating the new, high-quality software the industry needed to grow.

Gates’ singular mindset — “It was all Microsoft, all the time in my 20s … my view of success was very much Microsoft-centric,” he says — helped push the company to the forefront of the computer age, making him one of the world’s wealthiest people in the process. His current net worth is $128 billion, Forbes estimates.

Today, Gates enjoys “being polymathic and learning lots of things,” spending his free time reading about topics like biology, physics and climate science, he says. Those subjects are the focus of an upcoming Netflix docuseries called “What’s Next? The Future With Bill Gates,” set to premiere on September 18.

How Gates defines success today

Gates’ personal definition of success has “definitely evolved” from his younger days, he says.

In part, Gates regrets his single-minded focus, which kept him — and his employees — from enjoying a sense of work-life balance. Now, he advises everyone to “take a break when you need to,” he told students at Northern Arizona University’s commencement ceremony last year.

“I don’t work as hard [now],” Gates recently told Make It. “In my 20s, I didn’t believe in weekends and vacations. So, that was kind of out of control, how I pushed myself.”

Today, the 68-year-old’s idea of success revolves around a different question, he says: “Am I adding net value [to the world]?” He’s pledged to give away “virtually all” of his massive fortune — within the next 20 years, he’s said — through initiatives like the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and his clean-energy investment group, Breakthrough Energy.

“Now, I can define my success in terms of empowering other people [by] sharing what I did wrong, what I did right and providing my resources to things like malaria or climate change,” says Gates.

He’s looking forward to continuing that work over the next few decades, if his health allows, he adds: “I’m just super lucky to be in a different phase [of my life], but still able to feel like [I’m] making a difference.”

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Job-seekers are missing ‘something very basic’ in interviews, says hiring expert of 20 years

Adriane Schwager has interviewed thousands of people and hired hundreds in her roughly 20 years in the recruiting space.

She’s interviewed candidates at every level in an organization, from interns to senior leaders to join her in the C-suite. Schwager, the CEO and co-founder of GrowthAssistant, a hiring platform, says her most important piece of advice applies to people at any experience level: Show up prepared.

It sounds simple enough, but she says she’s noticed that candidates’ level of preparedness seems to have declined in the last five years or so.

“I’m actually shocked at how many times people don’t do their homework,” Schwager tells CNBC Make It. “Here’s something very basic that I’m seeing candidates missing right now, which is [understanding]: What does the company that you’re interviewing for do?”

Schwager says she’d often give that advice — research what the company does — to college students approaching their first jobs. “But I feel like I’m seeing more of that these days at a senior level, which is interesting,” she says.

Her hypothesis is that this tends to happen when she speaks with candidates who have come to her company through a third-party recruitment agency. “Either they’re not reading the prep, or maybe they weren’t even looking for the role,” she says. But, by the time it comes to an interview, she advises doing some research to express your engagement in the opportunity, otherwise it can be a big waste of time.

Gearing up for the interview doesn’t have to take too much time. Schwager says it’s a plus when a candidate mentions something from her LinkedIn, X profile or other information about the business at the top of an interview.

“That immediately makes me think that the candidate is engaged and starts the conversation off on a very nice note,” she says.

If you want to go above and beyond, you might get in contact with any mutual connections you have with your interviewer for feedback on what they’re like as a colleague or manager.

One of her most recent leadership hires went the extra mile by listening to podcast interviews that Schwager participated in.

Finally, for some companies, don’t discount reaching out directly to the top boss to express your interest in a role. Schwager says some of her most enthusiastic hires have been people who’ve contacted her directly on social media to express interest in joining her company.

“They know so much [about] why they’re applying” and “are always engaged,” she says.

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This 29-year-old millionaire doesn’t own a home — here’s how he spends and invests his money instead

Timothy Armoo, a co-founder and former CEO of influencer marketing firm Fanbytes, is not what you might expect from a multi-millionaire.

He doesn’t own any mansions — or property at all — saying he prefers to spend some of his money on eclectic investments, ranging from exotic fruit businesses in Africa to funding the sale of a lithium mine.

Armoo made his money selling Fanbytes to digital marketing agency Brainlabs in May 2022 for an eight-figure sum (the exact amount has not been made public).

But the young entrepreneur told CNBC Make It that he felt “almost too crippled to spend the money” after growing up poor in public housing in south London.

Describing what he called a “scarcity mindset” that he developed growing up, Armoo said: “I was convinced that if I started to spend the money, it would all start to go.”

“I would track it every week, maybe twice a week,” he said. “I had this spreadsheet where I would track to the penny how much I had.”

Armoo knew he had to find a way to come to terms with the fact that he was now wealthy, and wasn’t about to lose it all — so he called his bank. “I said: ‘I would like to come and take out a million pounds in cash.’”

After various checks, Armoo collected the cash from the bank and took it home in a big bag. He then spread it all out over his bed.

“I just looked at it,” he said. “The reason I did that was that I wanted to make it very visceral to me that: ‘Dude, if all else fails, if you spend everything on gambling, or you spend it on crypto, or something bad, at the very least, you have a million pounds in cash.’”

‘Completely exotic’ investments

Armoo said he invests his money in index funds — passive funds that track an index, such as the S&P 500 — and owns a variety of stocks including Shopify and Cloudflare.

“So I basically have two camps: one is the extremely safe bucket: index funds, overweight cash, bonds and guilt and treasuries. Then the other side of things is completely exotic.”

Some of Armoo’s more unusual investments include financing avocado, soybean, and mango businesses in Kenya, Angola and Tanzania, which supply supermarkets in Europe.

He also admitted he gets involved in “random stuff” and “alternative investments” such as buying uranium and funding the sale of a lithium mine.

“I enjoy the game of finding different arbitrages and different cool ways to spend, and invest the money, as opposed to ‘we’re just going to put it all in index funds,’” he added.

Armoo is a minimalist and doesn’t own a house

Most wealthy people love to invest in real estate, but not Armoo.

“I actually don’t own a house. I didn’t get involved in any residential property or any direct commercial property,” he said.

“Most people see property as their way of building wealth, but I use businesses as my way of building wealth and I don’t have a family, I don’t have a partner now, so why?”

Armoo said he expects more younger millionaires to make this choice, rejecting property in favor of being able to travel and move around more. “I probably only spend maybe half the year in London,” he said.

And unlike his peers, he’s less inclined to buy extravagant things.

“I’m generally quite a minimalist person,” he said. The one example he gave of a “flashy” purchase was first-class flights to Bali for him and his now ex-girlfriend. “That was cool. I remember thinking: ‘Yo, this is gangster.’”

The young millionaire emphasized that sometimes it’s good to reject the traditional way of doing things.

“I think there’s actually a bigger point here, which is to examine the rules that you live your life by. You should examine them and say: ’Well, why should I do this? Why should I choose this career? Why should I invest my money in this way?” he said.

“You should really examine those rules, because if not, you’re going to wake up later on and realize that you’ve lived your life by someone else’s rules.”